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FIRST abanonding RobotC? 
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Post FIRST abanonding RobotC?
Is FIRST's FTC league abandoning RobotC?

http://www.usfirst.org/aboutus/first-an ... mpetitions

I sure hope not. This sounds like it could be
pretty disastrous.


Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:59 pm
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Post Re: FIRST abanonding RobotC?
Bye Bye RobotC. It was good while it lasted.

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/ftc/technology


Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:50 pm
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Post Re: FIRST abanonding RobotC?
What? I thought we are going with EV3 next season?! What do we do with the EV3 we bought? It's good that we just bought one EV3 so far. Is there more technical info about the new Snapdragon control system? It sounds like there are some sort of new control modules that allows digital I/O and analog input. The information in the announcement is a bit vague. I do like the idea of using Java though. Our team has already converted to use Java on FRC this year. if FTC is using Java, it would have continuity in terms of training students when transitioning from FTC to FRC.


Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:58 am
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Post Re: FIRST abanonding RobotC?
Apparently they've also abandoned the idea of using Lego
devices as controllers. We've budgeted for EV3's next year,
but haven't bought any so expect this to be a wash
financially.

But the bigger issue personally is the investment we've made
in software and libraries that we carry over year to year that
will now have to be completely rewritten.

And then there's the sensors package that Mightor produced.
With Mightor now with Robomatter I presume that there may
be a bit of a conflict of interest given FIRST summarily
dumped RobotC.

Unless Qualcomm steps forward and supplies libraries I see this
as a pretty big hole. I realize that they are only i2c devices, but
this isn't work that my kids have the necessary skills to take on
and I'm just volunteering my time and don't really relish taking
that on myself.

I really do wish that FIRST wasn't giving out information in
dribs and drabs like this. All they've done is create more questions.


Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:20 pm
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Post Re: FIRST abanonding RobotC?
Our RobotC library is written so it is relatively portable. In fact, we have a similar library in C++ for FRC. This year for FRC, we switched from C++ to Java and have ported the library to Java. So I am actually happy on the possibility that FRC and FTC are converging on Java. We will see how hard it is to port the FRC Java library to FTC. The only worry I have is our FRC Java library is on top of the WPI library. So if FIRST is going to provide WPI library for FTC, it will be minimum effort to port. But if they don't have WPI library for FTC, then we will have more work to provide the minimal WPI layer for our library. It would be fantastic if we can achieve the goal that an FTC Java program looks almost identical to an FRC Java program. That would be the ultimate abstraction.


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